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R. Leonard, C.S.R., Inc. <br />Certified Shorthand Reporters <br />818.995.2449 <br />SHEET 34 PAGE 133 PAGE 135 <br />1 A WEEK OR SO REALI2ED IT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. WE 1 HAVE TO REVEAL ATTORNEY -CLIENT COMMUNICATION, OBJECTION <br />2 SIGNED AN LOI WITH WELLS AND WE WORKED ON THE EXTENSION 2 TO THE EXTENT YOU WOULD HAVE TO REVEAL SPOUSAL <br />3 LANGUAGE FOR THE LOAN FOR PROBABLY FIVE MONTHS, SIX 3 COMMUNICATION. <br />4 MONTHS UNTIL WE ACTUALLY SIGNED IT. 09:45:13 4 THE WITFIESS: I DO NOT. <br />09:45:13 5 Q DID ANYONE AT SINATRA COOK EVER TELL YOU THAT 09:45:13 5 Q BY MR. RUBINER: IN THE FALL -- SO IS IT <br />6 THEY WERE RELYING OH PARALLEL TO FIND A NEW LOAN FOR, TO 6 YOUR - I THINK YOU SAID THAT YOU BELIEVED <br />7 TAKE OUT THE WELLS FARGO LOAN? 7 MR. DALESANDRO ONLY WORKED ON OBTAINING A NEW LOAN FOR <br />09:45:13 B MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. HEARSAY, B SINATRA COOK FOR A FEW WEEKS IN SEPTEMBER OF 2010. <br />09:45:13 9 THE WITNESS: AS I TESTIFIED, SEAN WAS WAY DOWN THE 09:45:13 9 IS THAT RIGHT? <br />10 ROAD AFTER A YEAR OF TRYING TO FIND MONEY TO TAKE OUT 09:45:13 10 A I TESTIFIED ORE OR TWO, NOT A FEW. <br />11 WELLS. CERTAINLY MYSELF AND EAMDAR STARTED TO REALIZE 09:45:13 11 Q ONE OR TWO WEEKS, <br />12 THE EXTENSION WAS THE ONLY OPTION. GILFENBAIN, I THINK, 09:45:13 12 DID YOU CONTINUE TO DO WORK WITH <br />13 GOT TO THAT DECISION A LITTLE BIT LATER BUT ONCE WE 13 MR. DALESANDRO? <br />14 SIGNED AN AGREEMENT WITH WELLS THAT WAS THE ONLY COURSE 09:45:13 14 A I BELIEVE THE ROYAL CANYON WAS ONGOING UNTIL, <br />15 HE WOULD TALK ABOUT, FOCUS PURELY ON EXTENDING THAT LOAN 15 SAY, LATE OCTOBER/EARLY NOVEMBER WHERE WE WERE STILL <br />16 AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS IN THREE YEARS. 16 TRYING TO CONVINCE THE SELLERS OF THE LAND TO STAY WITH <br />09:15:13 17 Q 41HEN YOU SAY 'HE,' YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT 17 ME BECAUSE I REFUSED TO AT THAT POINT HAVE MY DEPOSITS <br />18 MR. GILFENBAIN? 1B GO HARD AND AT THE SAME TIME WE WERE CONVINCING A <br />09:45:13 19 A YES. 19 CAMPAIGN OF, TRYING TO CONVINCE ROCKPOINT CAPITAL TO <br />09:45:13 20 Q MR. GILFENBAIN EVER TELL YOU HE WAS RELYING ON 20 HONOR A TERM SHEET THEY HAD MADE TO FINANCE THE PROJECT. <br />21 MR. DALESANDRO OR PARALLEL TO OBTAIN A NEW LOAN? 09:45:13 21 Q WHO FOUND ROCKPOINT CAPITAL? <br />09:45:13 22 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION, HEARSAY, 09:45:13 22 A TODD EBERSTEIN. <br />09:45:13 23 THE WITNESS: I DON'T RECALL THAT SPECIFICALLY. I 09:45:13 23 Q AND WHEN DID YOU WORK WITH MR. EBERSTEIN? <br />24 DO RECALL WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM THE GUYS AT CANYON 09:45:13 24 A I'VE KNOWN TODD FOR SEVERAL YEARS. <br />25 WHICH PARALLEL HAD INTRODUCED TO THE DEAL AND I REMEMBER 09:45:13 25 Q WAS MR, EBERSTEIN WORKING ON OBTAINING <br />1331 1 135 <br />PAGE 134 PAGE 136 <br />1 GILFENBAIN ASKING ME A COUPLE TIMES DO WE HAVE A NUMBER, 1 FINANCING AT THE SAME TIME MR. DALESANDRO WAS? <br />2 DO WE HAVE A NUMBER, AND I REMEMBER HIM GIVING ME A 09:45:13 2 A I WOULDN'T SAY HE WAS WORKING ON OBTAINING <br />3 COUPLE SWEAR FIORDS WHEN I TOLD HIM IT WAS NOT A NUMBER 3 FINANCING. I WOULD SAY HE WAS FRIENDS WITH THE <br />4 THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AND GET US OUT OF 4 PRINCIPALS OF ROCKPOINT AND KNEW I WAS LOOKING TO <br />5 THIS PROBLEM WITH WELLS. 5 FINANCE A DEAL SO NE HAD SPOKEN TO THAT ONE AND ONLY <br />09:15:13 6 Q AND ULTIMATELY THE, THERE WAS A NEW LOAN WITH 6 COMPANY AND WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE THEM TO GO FORWARD WITH <br />7 WELLS; IS THAT RIGHT? 7 AN LOI. <br />09:45:13 B A I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL IT A NEW LOAN. IT WAS 09:45:13 8 THEY FOLLOWED UP WITH JV AGREEMENTS AND THERE <br />9 AN EXISTING LOAN. WE HAD TO PUT UP AT LEAST THREE 9 WAS A DISPUTE OVER WHO WAS OWED THE FEE. I BELIEVED IT <br />10 MORE -- $3 MILLION AS PART OF IT TO EXTEND THE LOAN, SO 10 DIDN'T MATTER TO ME. I WAS GOING TO HONOR THE PARALLEL <br />11 I WOULDN'T SAY IT WAS A NEW LOAN, IT WAS AN EXTENSION 11 FEE AGREEMENT AND I KEPT SEAN AWARE OF THAT. TODD WAS <br />12 OF A FOUR -YEAR -OLD LOAN WHICH REQUIRED US TO PUT UP 12 GOING TO NEED TO GET PAID BUT HE WAS CERTAINLY THE GO <br />13 SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 3- AND $5 MILLION. 13 BETWEEN BETWEEN 14E AND ROCKPOINT. HE WAS SPEAKING TO <br />09:15:13 14 Q WHEN YOU SAY 'US,' DID YOU PERSONALLY PUT UP 14 KYLE GARDNER, A GUY NAMED ARIV I THINK HIS NAME IS, <br />15 ANY OF THAT MONEY? 09:45:13 15 AND -- BUT IT DIDN'T MATTER, I HAD SIGNED AN AGREEMENT <br />09:45:13 16 A MO. AS I TESTIFIED BEFORE, IN EXCHANGE FOR 16 FOR THE ROCKPOINT WITH PARALLEL AND IT WAS <br />11 GILFENBAIN PUTTING UP THE MONEY HE SIGNED AN INDEMNITY 17 INCONSEQUENTIAL TO 14E AT THAT TIME THAT TODD HAD BROUGHT <br />18 AGREEMENT AGAINST ANY CLAIMS RELATED TO THE SINATRA 6 18 IT. I WAS STILL GOING TO -- IT WAS CONSEQUENTIAL TO NE <br />19 COOK PROJECT. 19 BUT I WAS STILL GOING TO PAY SEAN A FEE AND I TOLD HIM <br />09:45:13 20 Q HAVE YOU EVER MADE ANY CLAIMS ON THE INDEMNITY 20 THAT. <br />21 LANGUAGE? 09:45:13 21 Q DID ROC{POINT GO FORWARD WITH THE DEAL? <br />09:45:13 22 A NO. 09:45:13 22 A NO, <br />09:45:13 23 Q WAS, DO YOU KNOW IF A NEW DEED OF TRUST 41AS 09:45:13 23 Q DID ANYONE EVER TELL YOU WHY? <br />24 FILED ON THE WELLS LOAN? 09:45:13 24 A YES, <br />09:45:13 25 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU WILL 09:45:13 25 Q WHY WERE YOU TOLD THAT ROCKPOINT WOULDN'T GO <br />139 136'.. <br />Dalesandro vs. Ogulnick <br />Deposition of Ryan Andrew Ogulnick, Vol. 1 <br />August 13, 2012 <br />