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RECESS <br /> <br />present. <br /> <br />At 10:40 P.M., a recess was <br />declared. The meeting reconvened <br />at 10:45 P. M., with all Councilmen <br /> <br />CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC <br />CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY <br />(Continued) <br /> <br />unanimously carried. <br /> <br />Councilman Herrin's motion, seconded <br />by Councilman Yamamoto, to receive <br />and file the communications presented <br />to the Council by Mr. Michaelson, was <br /> <br />Mr. Bob Dunlap, stated that he is a mechanic and has dealt with Gordon Wiggins, Geor=e <br />Brazier, Larry Ogden, Mr. Welch, and Harvey Cole, as well as most of the drivers; <br />that at the present time he has a law suit filed against the Tustin Cab Company; that at <br />one time he had a garage but was bilked into moving it to their facilities with the promi <br />of more work and a guarantee of a certain amount of money per week, which came to <br />as soon as he had given up all his other accounts; that the men associated with this <br />company have a history of bilking people, cheating them; that he has not had as many <br />personal dealings with Gordon Wiggins as with the members of his organization and that <br />he thinks as a person he is allright, but as a businessman he could use a lot of experience; <br />b.e stated that UTO and Tustin Cab Company are not two separate companies; that if you <br />call a Tustin Cab you will get UTO, and vice versa. <br /> <br />Mr. George Brazier of the Tustin Cab Company stated he believed the Council should <br />consider servicing the customers of Santa Ana; that the service is needed; that the <br />people of Santa Ana want service. <br /> <br />There were no further proponents or opponents in the matter, the Assistant Clerk <br />reported no written communicatians had been received on the matter, and the Mayor <br />closed the public hearing. <br /> <br />The Mayor stated that in his opinion, UTO and all the people associated with UTO <br />have dealt irresponsibly; that they have operated in their own interests and not the <br />best interests of the City; that he could not vote to grant the application for taxicab <br />operation by any of the people who have been operating together; that it has been a <br />fraudulent operation, an operation that has been a blight on the City. <br /> <br />Councilman Patterson pointed out discrepancies in the statistics in Mr. Wiggins <br />report and stated that the need for this service has not been shown. <br /> <br />Councilman Herrin stated that a great amount has been said about fraudulent activities <br />of the people involved; that he does not believe the Council has jurisdiction to make <br />a determination of right or wrong in these matters; that he felt these matters are not <br />too relevant; and he asked if the ten permits already granted to UTO would remain in <br />effect in addition to any new permits granted at this hearing. <br /> <br />The City Attorney stated that would depend upon whether or not Council revokes that <br />permit; that UTO is a corporation; that the business certificate they use is the same <br />kind of decal that goes on cigarette machines and peep shows, and there is a lot of <br />evidence to indicate that these have been lifted off and put on cabs; that they have been <br />playing musical chairs with these decals. In response to Councilman Herrin's <br />question, he stated that if five more permits are issued, they will have a total of 15. <br /> <br />CITY COUNCIL -69- February 7, 1972 <br /> <br /> <br />