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as proposed. He stated that he was in agreement with the findings and <br />recommendations of Mr. Kaliski's analysis. <br />Commissioner Mill expressed concerns with lack of open space and found the <br />project to be reminiscent of poorly designed apartment complexes built in Santa <br />Ana in the 1970s and 80s. He emphasized the need to outreach to the <br />Sandpointe neighborhood and stated that he thought the project might not be well <br />received. He also expressed concerns with the project's limited ingress/egress <br />• and circulation. <br />Commissioner Yrarrazaval made comparisons to the Geneva Commons project <br />stating that the proposed project did not match the quality of that which is currently <br />entitled. He expressed disapproval with the lack of landscape setbacks, lack of <br />open space, and of the square footage per unit design. <br />Commissioner Nalle stated the project is over-built, dealing with only two acres for <br />319 units; recommended going to back to three acres usage. Mr. Bisno indicated <br />the long term proposal for the remaining acre is to construct a high rise project, <br />but that no plans have been made. Commissioner Nalle asked if the project's <br />coverage of the two acres could be reduced if directed by the Planning <br />Commission. Mr. Bisno stated that the project coverage could not be reduced by <br />much. Commissioner Nalle also recommended that there should be a break in the <br />median on First American Way to allow for a left turn lane. <br />Commissioner Acosta stated that the project design looks overcrowded and not <br />appealing. He stated that, while the architect had described the building's "blocky" <br />design as being appropriate, that the City would like to try to get away from the <br />blockiness of the existing buildings. He stated that the new Lyon project, also by <br />Chris Coe, is a much better design. He expressed concerns with the lack of <br />landscape setbacks, that the design was not showing enough greenery and that <br />• he would like to see a more friendly and visionary development. He also <br />emphasized the need to do extensive outreach to the Sandpointe neighborhood. <br />He stated that the project just wasn't there in terms of its design and that he was <br />looking for more in establishing a sense of place for the area. <br />Chairman Alderete stated that the project resembles some of the large apartment <br />complexes being constructed along Jamboree in Irvine, which are not a good <br />architectural fit for the MacArthur Place South area. In terms of the unit mix, he <br />stated that the over-abundance of one-bedroom units does not meet the <br />community's needs. He noted that the overall low-rise scale of the project is <br />inconsistent with the surrounding building type. He requested information on <br />projects already constructed by the developer, Vineyards Development. Mr. <br />Ogulnick responded that they did not have any projects in Orange County, but had <br />some in Los Angeles and Riverside counties. The Commission requested more <br />information regarding Vineyard Development's specific projects. Chairman <br />Alderete expressed concern with the lack of master planning over the entire three- <br />acre site and felt that this project was lacking in quality. Chairman Alderete also <br />stated any possible development of the remaining acre was not germane to the <br />Commission's deliberation of the project before it. <br />Mr. Kaliski summarized the analysis provided in his detailed memo and was in <br />agreement with the Commissioners' comments regarding the project's design <br />deficiencies. <br />• 5. PUBLIC COMMENTS (on non-agenda items) <br />No public members spoke. <br />Planning Commission Minutes Page 6 of 7 May 23, 2011 <br />
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