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HISTORIC RFSOl1RCFS COMMISSION
ACTION MINUTES OF THE
HISTORIC RESOURCES COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF SANTA ANA
February 5, 2004
CALL TO ORDER 4:41 P.M.
CITY HALL ROSS ANNEX
20 CIVIC CENTER PLAZA
FIRST FLOOR, CONFERENCE ROOM 1600
-, SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA
ATTENDANCE: COMMISSIONERS PRESENT:
Carlos Bustamante
Phillip Chin
Rita Corpin
Rose Anne Garcia Kings
Paul Giles, Chairman
James Gartner
Thomas Lutz
Blair O'Callaghan
Philip Schaefer, Vice Chairman
STAFF PRESENT: Jay Trevino, Planning Manager
Kylee Otto, Deputy City Attorney
Maya De Rosa, Senior Planner
Vince Fregoso, Senior Planner
Matt Lamb, Downtown Development Manager
Martha Ramirez, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Approval Of Minutes
RECOMMENDATION:
Approve the minutes from the regular meeting of January 8, 2004.
B. Commission Secretary Report
RECOMMENDATION:
Instruct the Commission Secretary to enter into the minutes that pursuant to the Brown Act
and the Maddy Act, the January 8, 2004 Agenda for the Regular Meeting was posted on the
door of the City Hall Council Chambers at 22 Civic Center Plaza on December 31, 2003 at
12:05 p.m.
C. RECONSIDERATION OF HISTORIC RESOURCES COMMISSION APPLICATION NO.
2003-42 AND HISTORIC REGISTER CATEGORIZATION NO. 2003-45
(Continued by the Historic Resources Commission December 4, 2003 to January 8, 2004.]
(Melanie McCann)
By direction of the City Council the Historic Resources Commission shall reconsider the
placement and categorization of the structure located at 1310 North Louise Street (Miller
House) as Contributive on the Santa Ana Register of Historical Properties by March 4, 2004.
RECOMMENDATION:
Continue item to March 4. 2004.
Motion to:
Approve the minutes from the regular meeting of January 8, 2004,
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Instruct the Commission Secretary as recommended, and Continue Historic
Resources Commission Application No, 2003-42 and Historic Register Categorization
No. 2003-45 to March 4, 2004.
MOTION: Kings SECOND: Chinn
AYES: Commissioners: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Gartner, Kings, Giles, Lutz,
O'Callaghan, Schaefer (g)
NOES: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: None (0}
ABSENT: Commissioners: None (0)
**END OF CONSENT CALENDAR**
D. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
RECOMMENDATION
1. Elect the Chairperson of the Historic Resources Commission
Motion to:
Nominate Commissioner Giles as Chairperson to the Historic Resources
Commission; no other nominations were noted.
MOTION:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Kings
Commissioners:
Commissioners;
Commissioners:
Commissioners:
Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Gartner, Kings, Giles, Lutz,
O'Callaghan, Schaefer (g)
None (0)
None {0)
None (0)
2. Elect the Vice Chairberson of the Historic Resources Commission
' Motion to:
Nominate Commissioner Schaefer as Vice Chairperson to the Historic Resources
Commission; no other nominations were noted.
MOTION: Bustamante
AYES: Commissioners: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Gartner, Kings, Giles, Lutz,
O'Callaghan, Schaefer (g)
NOES: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSENT: Commissioners: None (0)
WORK STUDY SESSION
ITEMS F AND I WERE TAKEN OUT OF ORDF_R.
F. ONE BROADWAY PLAZA
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(Vince Fregoso)
Vince Fregoso, Senior Planner presented a status report and project highlights. He noted
that the planning commission public hearing is scheduled for February 23, 2004.
Staff noted this is the second year for the awards. Ther
recognitions: (1) Best Rehabilitation, (2) Besf Infill, (3)
(Person or Project), and (5) Historic Beautifiration. T ha
Commissioners Kings, O'Callaghan, and Gartner.
DOWNTOWN PROJECTS UPDATE
e are five categories for the award
Restoration; (4) Award of Merit
Judging Committee members are
(Matt Lamb)
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Matt Lamb, Downtown Development Manager presented an overview of the downtown
projects.
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Commissioner Bustamante requested to abstain from the Bowers Museum item.
3-51 & 2003-52 (Lynnette Perry)
rc Hearing opened and closed on November 6, 2003. Continued by the Historic Resources Commission
November 6, 2003 to February ,5, 2004 ;)
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to place and categorize various structures on the Santa Ana
Register of Historical Properties.
RECOMMENDATION
Lynnette Perry, Associate Planner presented the staff rel7ort and recommendation.
Chairman Giles opened the floor to public hearing.
Robert Batlin, resident 826 N. Towner St. stated he still had concerns about the listing.
Mary Jane Blackwell resident at 826 N. Baker St. stated she would like the option of an
indefinite continuance. Roslynn Pryor at 1403 N. Olive St. stated she was not sure if she
wanted to be listed an the register.
Chairman Giles closed the public hearing.
G. Recess to Council Chambers
ROLL CALL
H. COMMISSIONER COMMUNICATION DISCLOSURE (REGARDING AGENDIZED PROJECTS)
J.
1. Adopt a resolution approving Historic Resources Commission Application Nos. 2003-45,
2003-44, 2003-49 and 2003-50.
2. Adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization Nos. 2003-47, 2003-4Ei,
2003-51 and 2003-52.
5:29 P.M.
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
22 CIVIC CENTER PLAZA
SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA.
BUSINESS CALENDAR
Commissioners Chinn, Giles, Schaefer and Lutz commented on benefits associated with the
listing on the Historical Register.
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Motion fo:
Adopt a resolution approving HRCA No; 2003-45
Adopt a resolution approving HRC No. 2003-47
Adopf a resolution denying HRCA 2003-44IHRC 2003-46; HRCA 2003-50/HRC 2003-52;
HRCA 2003-49/HRC 2003-51
MOTION: Lutz
SECOND: Bustamante
AYES: Commissioners: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Gartner, Lutz, Schaefer {6)
NOES`. Commissioners: Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan {3)
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: None {0)
ABSENT: Commissioners: None (0)
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February 5, 2004
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. HISTORIC EXTERIOR MODIFICATION APPLICATION NO. 2004-01 (Bob St. Paul)
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to allow atwo-story, 54,000 square foot expansion, for the
Bowers Museum located at 2032 N. Main Street.
PUBLISHED IN THE ORANGE COUNTY REPORTER: (January 23, 2004)
PUBLICLY NOTICED: (January 23, 2004)
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RECOMMENDATION:
Adopt a resolution approving Historic Exterior Modification Application No. 2004-01.
Bob St. Paul, Associate Planner, made presentation and recommendation.
Architect Robert Coffey reviewed the renderings presented for the Bowers expansion.
Commissioner Kings supports expansion, but voiced concerned with the dark colored glass
selection.
Commissioner Lutz inquired about the arched windows and the kitchen facilities. Mr. Coffey
explained how they are integrated into the existing building.
Commissioner Giles inquired as to how many parking spaces are we loosing. Staff will
advise.
Chairman Giles opened the public hearing.
Residents Diane Ashbaugh, Richard Abeyta, and Diane Schell commented on objections to
museum expansion.
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Commissioner Gartner supports the expansion.
Chairman Giles closed the public hearing.
Motion to:
Adopt a resolution approving Historic Exterior Modification Application No. 2004-07
with recommendation that staff consider an alternate for the glass color on the
proposed windows.
Motion: Lutz Second: Schaefer
AYES: Commissioners: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Gartner, Garcia Kings, Giles,
Lutz, O'Callaghan, Schaefer (g)
NOES: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSENT: Commissioners: None (0}
2.
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to place and categorize various structures on the Santa Ana
Register of Historical Properties.
RECOMMENDATION:
1. Adopt a resolution approving Historic Resources Commission Application Nos. 2004-01
through 2004-08.
2. Adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization Nos. 2004-01 through
2004-08.
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Melanie McCann, Associate Planner presented the staff report and recommendation.
Chairman Giles opened the public hearing.
Gayle Meyer, resident at 317 E. Santa .Clara Avenue, requests aone-year continuance to
review the listing information.
Chairman Giles closed the public hearing.
Mofion to:
' Adopt a resolution approving HRCA Nos.. 2004-01, -Od, -06 and 07 and HRC Nos. 2004-
01, -04, -OS and 07.
Grant athree-month continuance to HRCA Nos. 2004-02, -03, -OS and HRC Nos. 2004-
02, 03, 05.
Grant a year continuance to HRCA No. 2004-08 and HRC No. 2004-08.
MOTION: Kings SECOND: Corpin
AYES: Commissioners: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Gartner, Garcia Kings, Giles,
Lutz, O'Callaghan, Schaefer (9)
NOES: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSTAIN: Commissioners: None (0)
ABSENT: Commissioners: None (0)
3. Public Comments titems not on the agenda)
Residents, Teresa Martinez and Ruben Martinez commented on their objections to being
listed on the Historical Register.
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Staff Comments
Maya De Rosa notified commission about February 13, 2004 Template Review Committee
meeting.
5. Historic Resources Commission Comments
Downtown on the 2"d Thursday in May.
• One Broadway is scheduled for Planning Commission on February 23, 2004.
Suggest HRC commissioners be present to testify.
Commissioner Chinn
• Inquired about the YMCA joint parking with Michael Harrah. Staff will advise.
• Inquired about availability of handouts for loan program. Staff indicated they will
follow up with CDA Housing and then prepare a memo for the commissioners.
• Bank of America building on 8~h/Main, does Mr. Harrah have permits? Planning
Manager Trevino indicates staff is currently working with Mr. Harrah.
• Informed commission about Orange County Society meeting on Google Architecture
at 730 p.m. next Thursday. There will be a discussion on the City of Orange
Commissioner Corpin
• Requested a Response to Comments on One Broadway.
• Would like information on meeting dates for the Template Committee.
Commissioner Kings
• Would like to review drawings for One Broadway Plaza.
• Supports the Bowers expansion project.
• Requested that more time be given to prospective properties being placed on the
register.
• Noted that design/architectural students are participating at AIA Triangular Wedge
competition.
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Vice Chairman Schaefer
• Would like earlier notice to residents being considered for HRC listing.
• Requested an update on Phillips Hutton. Staff indicated that the city is working on
getting a tenant there. West end of property is nearing completion.
Commissioner O'Callaghan
• When are awards given out for restoration? Staff indicated the Historic Preservation
Awards are scheduled for council presentation on May 6.
• 2023 Heliotrope property, were permits obtained? Staff confirmed the permits were
obtained for a room addition.
• Requested that staff develop a strategy to get homeowners to accept listing on
Historical Register.
Commissioner Lutz
• Concerned with the number of homeowners objecting to being listed on the register.
• Noted the sidewalks at 310 Broadway need repairs. Staff will advise.
• Requested an update on Kohl's for HRC. Staff will advise.
• Commented that the United Way banners on South Bristol & Sunflower do not have a
consistent appearance. Requested information on how banners are placed on public
light poles. Staff will advise.
Commissioner Gartner
• Supports Bowers expansion.
• Concerned with inconsistent handling of applicant request to remove their property
from the register.
Chairmah Giles
• Concerned with inconsistent handling of removal and continuance of historic
properties.
• Praised staff for their efforts.
' Suggested a special study session to review guidelines.
• Repeated concerns from applicants indicating they do not receive enough time to
review application; would like future templates to include a log sheet of
correspondence with property owner.
6. Excuse of Absences
7. Adjournment 7:30 pm
Ma tha Ramirez
Recording Secretary
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