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ACTION MINUTES OF THE
HISTORIC RESOURCES COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF SANTA ANh1
JANUARY 3, 2002
CALLED TO ORDER: 4:38 P.M.
City Hall Ross Annex
First Floor Conference Room 1600
20 Civic Center Plaza, Santa Ana, California
ATTENDANCE:
COMMISSIONERS Present:
Rose Anne Garcia Kings, Chair
Paul Giles, Vice Chairman
Philip Chinn, Pro Tem
Carlos Bustamante
Rita Corpin
Blair O'Callaghan
Robert Richardson
COMMISSIONERS Absent:
James Gartner
STAFF PRESENT: Cynthia J. Nelson, Deputy City Manager
Charles View, Planning Manager
Benjamin Kaufman, Assistant CityAtforney
Kylee Odette, Deputy CityAttomey
Joyce Amerson, Traffic Manager
Laura Johnson, Recording Secretary
CONSENT CALENDAR
Motion to approve staff recommendations on the following Consent Calendar
items.
MOTION: Chinn
SECOND: Corpin
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (7)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner (1)
ABSTENTION: None (0}
MINUTES
Approve minutes:
RECOMMENDATION:
Approve the minutes of the regular meeting of December 6, 2001.
A. COMMISSION SECRETARY REPORT
RECOMMENDATION:
Instruct the Commission Secretary to enter into the minutes.
The December 6, 2001 Agenda for the Regular Meeting was posted at the City
Hall Council Chambers on November 30, 2001 at 12:05 p.m.
* * * END OF CONSENT CALENDAR * *
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BUSINESS CALENDAR
B. ELECTION OF OFFICERS
RECOMMENDATION:
1. Elect the Chairperson of the Historic Resources Commission
Motion fo nominate Madam Chair Kings as Chairperson fo the Historic
Resources Commission.
MOTION: Giles SECOND: Corpin
Motion to elect by acclamation.
MOTION: Corpin SECOND: Bustamante
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (7)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner (1)
ABSTENTION: None (0)
2. Elect the Vice Chairperson of the Historic Resources Commission
Motion to nominate Commissioner Giles as Vice Chairperson to the
Historic Resources Commission.
MOTION: Corpin SECOND: O'Callaghan
Motion to elect by acclamation.
MOTION: Chinn SECOND: Richardson
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (7)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner (1)
ABSTENTION: None (0)
3. Elect the Chairperson Pro Tem of the Historic Resources Commission
Motion to nominate Commissioner Chinn as Chairperson Pro Tem to the
Historic Resources Commission.
MOTION: Giles
Motion to elect by acclamation.
MOTION: Corpin
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTENTION:
SECOND: Corpin
SECOND: Bustamante
Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (7)
None (0)
Gartner (1)
None (0)
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WORK STUDY SESSION
D. BROADWAY DISTRICT CURBS. GUTTERSM AND SIDEWALKS
George Alvarez, City Engineer, discussed the preservation of the historic curbs
and gutters along the Broadway corridor. Types of curbs currently in use and
proposed replacements were outlined. Discussion regarding ADA requirements
held. Mr. Alvarez advised the Commission that when replacement was
necessary proposals would be brought to the Commission for their review.
E. SYCAMORE GARAGE LIVENVORK PROJECT
Sergio Klotz, Associate Planner II provided a description of the Live/Work project
and a status update. Madam Chair Kings commented that this was an example
of a project that the Commission felt they should have been allowed to review
prior to final approval by the City Council. Comm(ssioner Richardson advised
that in the future, Historic Resources Commission comments should be put in
writing so that either staff or he could present them to the Planning Commission.
Sergio Klotz also provided a description of the Sycamore Garage project and a
status update. Discussion held regarding the parking needs of the downtown
area. Ms. Nelson commented that the garage will provide needed parking for
several buildings and make them more attractive to prospective tenants.
Commission suggestions included keeping the building height down as much as
possible, enhance the landscaping and lighting, covering the walls with vines to
deter graffiti, and making more permanent upgraded improvements to the
existing surface parking lot on Broadway..
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F. OBJECTIVE #9 -DEVELOP HISTORIC DISTRICT PROCESS
Objective update provided by Charles View. He noted that process guidelines
were identified as due by May 2002. The Commission had identified Logan as
the next district they wished to review and a survey was due by June 2002.
Using the Broadway district as a model, staff will work with the Commission to
identify preliminary boundaries and, based on those preliminary boundaries, do a
field visit to see what is there. A work/study session will follow to create draft
standards and guidelines. Staff will then use the draft to create an action item to
be brought to the Commission and then to the Planning Commission and City
Council as was done with Broadway. Using the Broadway model for design
standards will create guidelines for use by staff and the Planning Commission to
evaluate new construction but will not create a new construction review
component for the Historic Resources Commission. He advised the
Commission that if that was a consideration that they wish to bring back up they
should advise staff, as it is not part of what has been modeled.
The Commission recessed at 5:40 p.m. for 10 minutes.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
PROCEDURAL RULES
1. HISTORIC RESOURCE DEMOLITION N0.2001-01. 02LAND 03
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to discuss the noflce of intent to demolish
the fhree structures located of 1007-1009, 1015, and 1109 North Broadway
lisfed on the Santa Ana Register of Historic Properties as part of the One
Broadway Plaza high-rise office projecf.
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PUBLISHED !N THE REGISTER: December 21, 2001
PUBLICLY NOTICED: December Y1, 2001
RECOMMENDATION:
Receive public comment and discuss the request to demolish the historical
structures located at 1007-1009, 1015, and 1109 North Broadway.
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Charles View, Planning Manager, provided the staff report and outlined the
Environmental Impact Review (EIR) process. He advised the Commission that the EIR
would be released later this month. Outreach efforts regarding the potential relocation of
the buildings were described. Relocation sites were identified and cost information
provided.
Mr. Michael Harrah, Caribou Industries, provided background information of his
company. He discussed other buildings that they have purchased and the rehabilitation
that was done.
Madam Chair Kings opened the public hearing.
Louise Pass, Historic French Park, spoke in opposition of demolition or relocation until
after City Council has considered the project.
Debbie McEwen, Historic French Park, spoke in opposition of demolition or relocation
until after City Council has considered the project.
Glen Stroud, Santa Ana resident, spoke in opposition of demolition or relocation until
after City Council has considered the project.
Ben Grabiel, Santa Ana resident, spoke in support of a requirement for the developer to
pay for relocation and rehabilitation of the buildings.
Roberta Reed, Santa Ana resident, spoke in opposition of demolition or relocation until
after EIR has been completed and reviewed.
Tim Rush, Santa Ana Historical Preservation Society, spoke in opposition of demolition
or relocation of the buildings and stated that they should have been subject to code
enforcement action.
Nathan Reed, Santa Ana Historical Preservation Society, spoke in opposition of
demolition or relocation of the buildings and suggested that the Historic Building Code
be used to evaluate the condition of the buildings,
Vivian Martinez, Delhi Neighborhood Association, spoke in opposition of demolition or
relocation of the buildings due to the importance of retaining historic sites.
Alison Young, Santa Ana Historical Preservation Society, spoke in opposition of
demolition or relocation of the buildings and stated that they should have been subject to
code enforcement action. She also stated that the project should be subject to the
guidelines included in the Midtown Specific Plan.
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Commissioner Bustamante asked why Mr. Harrah had chosen this specific site and Mr.
Harrah responded that it was because of its central location and because Santa Ana is
the county seat.
Commissioner Corpin requested that materials provided by the developer be forwarded
prior to the meeting. Potential traffic issues within the project area were discussed.
Commissioner Giles expressed concern regarding demolition prior to project approval.
He also stated that the Final Historic Resources Technical and Feasibility Report that
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Commissioner Richardson suggested that the public hearing be continued to February 7,
2002 to allow for a review of the EIR.
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had been provided did not adequately address the impact of removing the buildings.
Requested that the developer proactively support relocation if necessary.
Commissioner Richardson expressed concern regarding the issuance of a demolition
permit prior to review of the EIR. Ben Kaufman, Assistant City Attorney, provided an
overview of the demolition provisions contained in Chapter 30 of the Municipal Code.
Charles View advised the demolition process and the EIR process are not the same
when not associated with a development project. He also advised that the applicant
' could choose to demolish the structures even if the project does not move forward.
Ms. Nelson, Deputy City Manager, noted that this is not a request for action but a
request for public comment and to give the Commission time to formulate their
recommendations and request any additional information needed.
Commissioner Richardson requested information regarding potential mitigation
measures. Mr. View advised that as a public body they can identify what they believe
appropriate. The City Council will review all suggestions and make their decision. Ne
noted that cost issues normally are best left to the Council but whatever the Commission
considers beneficial should be included and presented to the Council.
Commissioner Chinn requested back-up information for structural engineering report and
ex ressed concern regarding traffic issues ~a4 ~~jGilq't~a~~~~~iii~js'N~ii`tgjj~~ipfgp~~~~~~~l$jq
R~~11~h;>~61 He requested information regarding the developer's responsibility to replace
low-income housing lost and was advised by Mr. Kaufman that as the project was not
utilizing any Redevelopment Agency funds it was not subject to relocation requirements
but that the loss of affordable housing could be an impact depending on the EIR.
Madam Chair Kings made the following comments:
Report Scope
1. The report does not address the collective loss of these structures as part of the
Historic Broadway Corridor or the effects of the proposed development on the
existing historic structures/district to remain. Presumably, this will be assessed in
the Cultural Resource Assessment (by Discovery Works) which we have not
been given yet.
2. Report does not address the site/setting associated with the structures in
questions which are part of the Secretary of Interior's Standards for
Rehabilitation. Appendices A & B clearly do not provide enough information to
indicate the true loss of structures and the associated environments. Nor does
the report satisfactorily assess or recognize this cultural loss should these
buildings be relocated.
Report Findings
3. Deferred maintenance and the failure to maintain these structures is a
detrimental role in the cost of rehabilitating these structures. It appears that the
owner sees this as way to hasten the demolition of these structures. The
Commission would ask that the owner provide reasonable care and maintenance
of these properties.
4. The structural assessment findings of this report (Section VIII) are contradictory
to the findings that were presented in regards to the condemning of the Yale
Apartments (Correia Evaluation). Both reports document problems mostly
' associated with negligence, yet the Garavaglia report finds no evidence of
structural stress or failure. The Garavaglia report also properly suggests that a
more detailed analysis would credit much of the strength of the floor and wall
framing. In light of this new evidence, I would like to request that staff review the
reports and the decision to allow demolition and propose a third report to confirm
the structural soundness of the Yale Apartments.
5. Section VII Historic Significance assessment and findings are inadequate and
inconsistent to the findings of this Commission. The report only considers
National Register Criterion B; however, the Yale Apartments were found to be
significant under Criterion C. The Koenig House and the Twist-Basler Home
were both found significant under Criteria A, B, and C. Had the report
adequately addressed these other criteria, the sites and significance of these
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properties and their significance to development on Broadway would have been
recognized as cultural losses that result from moving these structures.
Mitigation Suggestions
1. Reduce the scope and size of the project to comply with the current development
standards of the Midtown Specific Plan with particular care to the Historic
components in regards to the Broadway Corridor.
2. Relocate the office tower to the owner's property on the south side of 10"' Street
' (southeast corner of Broadway and 10"') and recanfigure the parking structure to
minimize impacts to the Historic Broadway Corridor.
3. Donate all the structures and the funds to relocate and rehabilitate the three
properties to the Santa Ana Historical preservation Society (nonprofit donation).
Funds to acquire property, relocate, and rehab could run upwards of $2.2 million
based on the higher of the figures provided.
4. Donate all the structures for relocation and/or salvage and the funds to complete
a portion of relocation, rehabilitation and/or salvage of the structures to the
SAHPS. The priorities and costs for full rehabilitation would be:
a. Twist-Basler Home (Landmark) $848,048
b. Koenig House (Key) $665,837
c. Yale Apartments (Contributive) $712,544
Total $2,226,429
Summary
Removal of these structures is detrimental to the Historic Broadway Corridor. If this
project is deemed more valuable to the City than the value of these historic properties
and a potential historic designation status for the Broadway Corridor, then I would ask
that as much assistance as possible be provided to maximize preservation efforts.
' Commissioner Richardson requested that mitigation be added to retain the properties in
the northern portion of the project or district in the event of relocation.
Ms. Nelson noted that the comments the Commissioners had made were what staff
needed and thanked the Commissioners for their efforts.
Motion to continue the public hearing to February 7, 2002.
MOTION: Richardson SECOND: Bustamante
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (7)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner (1)
ABSTENTION: None (0)
The Commission recessed at 7:40 p.m. for 5 minutes.
Commissioner Richardson left.
2. HISTORIC REGISTER NO. 2001-02
Filed on behalf of Albert Scotf to request that the Historic Resources
Commission affirm or rescind the decision to place the structure located at
1320 North Broadway on the Santa Ana Register of Historic Property.
PUBLISHED IN THE REGISTER: December 21, 2001
PUBLICLY NOTICED: December 21, 2001
RECOMMENDATION.•
Adopt a resolution affirming the decision to place the property located at
1320 north Broadway on fhe Santa Ana Register of Historic Properties.
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Motion to continue fo February 7, 2001 at the request of the applicant.
MOTION: Giles SECOND: O'Callaghan
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (7)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner (1)
ABSTENTION: None (0)
3. HISTORIC REGISTER CATEGORIZATION NOS. 2002-01 THROUGH 04 AND 06.
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to categorize various structures on the Santa
Ana Register of Historical Properties.
PUBLISHED !N THE REGISTER: December 21, 2001
PUBLICLY NOTICED: December 21, 2001
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801 N. French Street 06 Smith A. House Landmark
RECOMMENDATION:
Adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization Nos. 2002-01
through 04, and 06.
Maya DeRosa, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and recommendation.
Commissioner Bustamante declared a possible conflict of interest.
Madame Chair Kings opened the public hearing.
No written communications had been received.
Charles Wheeler, 802 N. French Street, requested that the template be changed to
reflect repairs made in 1985.
Madame Chair Kings closed the public hearing.
Motion to adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization No. 2002-
01 through 04 and 06.
MOTION: Giles SECOND: Gartner
AYES: Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan, Richardson (6)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner (1)
ABSTENTION: Bustamante (1)
HISTORIC REGISTER CATEGORIZATION NOS. 2002-11. 14, AND 15
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to categorize various structures on the Santa
Ana Register of Historical Properties.
PUBLISHED /N THE REGISTER: December 21, 2001
PUBLICLY NOTICED: December 21, 2001
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RECOMMENDATION:
Adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization Nos. 2002-11,
14, and 15.
Maya DeRosa, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and recommendation.
Madame Chair Kings opened the public hearing.
No written communications were received and there was no speakers on the matter.
Madame Chair Kings closed the public hearing.
Motion to adopf a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization No. 2002-
11, 14, and 15.
MOTION: Giles SECOND: Bustamante
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan (6)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner, Richardson (2)
ABSTENTION: None (0)
HISTORIC REGISTER CATEGORIZATION NOS. 2002-Q8 THROUGH 10
Filed by the City of Santa Ana to categorize various structures on the Santa
Ana Register of Historical Properties.
PUBLISHED IN THE REGISTER: December 21, 2001
PUBLICLY NOTICED: December 21, 2001
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206 E. Washin ton Avenue 09 Morrow Bun aloes Contributive
1107 N. French Street 10) 'Russell Home Contributive
RECOMMENDATION:
Adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization Nos. 2002-08
through T 0.
Maya DeRosa, Senior Planner, presented the staff report and recommendation.
Madame Chair Kings opened the public hearing.
No written communications were received and there was no speakers on the matter.
Madame Chair Kings closed the public hearing.
Motion to adopt a resolution approving Historic Register Categorization No. 2002-
08 through 10.
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MOTION: Corpin SECOND: Chinn
AYES: Bustamante, Chinn, Corpin, Giles, Kings, O'Callaghan (6)
NOES: None (0)
ABSENT: Gartner, Richardson (2)
ABSTENTION: None (0)
PUBLIC COMMENTS
6. Oral Comments -Comments from the Public
None
STAFF AND COMMISSION COMMENTS
Comments from Staff
Mr. View
• Advised the Commission that Joseph Edwards was on vacation
• Advised the Commission that the Mayor will be answering the letter from French
Park.
• The next meeting will include an update on the Commission's annual objectives
• Noted that an Ad Hoc Committee for Code Updates would be formed.
Comments from Historic Resources Commission
Commissioner COroin
• Requested that all materials regarding an item, including those from applicants, be
provided prior to the meeting.
' Commissioner O'Callaghan
• Requested any material available that would provide a big picture of the One
Broadway Plaza project.
Commissioner Chinn
• Advised that the historical room at the Library had not as yet received the data
promised and asked for staff to investigate.
• Requested an update on the Historical Rehabilitation Loan Program. Mr. View
advised that Housing staff will be requested to provide an update to the Commission.
Madame Chair Kings
• Requested formation of an ad hoc working committee to review text, markers and
monuments. Madame Chair Kings and Commissioner Richardson will serve on the
committee.
Requested written confirmation of Mr. Harrah's agreement to not demolish the
buildings located at 1007-1009, 1015 and 1109 N. Broadway.
Advised that the store fronts on the Phillips Block Building had been removed.
Thanked the Commissioners for re-electing her as Chair.
Commissioner Giles
• Noted that he could not find the historic links to the web pages.
• Asked when the historic register would go on line. Mr. View advised that staff would
investigate.
• Expressed concern regarding the public being made aware of the Historic
Rehabilitation Loan Program and requested the application be made available on
line.
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Excuse of Absences
Motion by Commissioner Bustamante and seconded by'Commissioner O'Callaghan to
excuse the absence of Commissioner Gartner and approved unanimously by a vote of
6:0.
8. Adjournment-8:15p.m.
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