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R. Leonard, C.S.R., Inc. <br />Certified Shorthand Reporters <br />818.995.2449 <br />- SHEET <br />9 <br />PAGE <br />33 <br />PAGE 35 <br />09:45:13 <br />1 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />1 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />2 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: JOHN JAY HIGH SCHOOL. <br />09:45:13 <br />2 <br />Q <br />BY MR. <br />RUEINER: DID YOU GRADUATE? <br />00:45:13 <br />3 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: IS THAT IN NEW YORK CITY? <br />09:45:13 <br />3 <br />A <br />YES, <br />09:45:13 <br />4 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:15:13 <br />4 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />D9:45:13 <br />5 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: OUTSIDE THE CITY. <br />09:45:13 <br />5 <br />Q <br />BY MR, <br />EUBINER: WHAT WAS YOUR DEGREE IN? <br />D9:45:13 <br />6 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: I'M SORRY? <br />09:45:13 <br />6 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />00:45:13 <br />7 <br />A <br />OUTSIDE THE CITY. <br />09:45:13 <br />7 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: <br />PRE -LAW, HISTORY, SOMETHING TO THAT <br />09:45:13 <br />8 <br />Q <br />WHAT CITY WAS IT IN? <br />8 <br />EFFECT. <br />09:15:13 <br />9 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION, RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />9 <br />Q <br />BY MR. <br />RUBINER: WHAT YEAR DID YOU GRADUATE? <br />09:41:13 <br />10 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: I THINK IT'S IN FISEKILL BUT NOT <br />09:45:13 <br />10 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />11 <br />CERTAIN. <br />EXCUSE ME. <br />09:45:13 <br />11 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: <br />1993. <br />09:45:13 <br />12 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: DID YOU GRADUATE? <br />09:45;13 <br />12 <br />Q <br />BY MR. <br />RUBINER: DID YOU TAKE ANY COURSES IN <br />09:15:13 <br />13 <br />A <br />YES. <br />13 <br />REAL ESTATE? <br />09:45:13 <br />14 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />14 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />15 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT YEAR? <br />09:45:13 <br />15 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: <br />I DON'T RECALL. <br />09:45:13 <br />16 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />16 <br />Q <br />BY MR, <br />RUBINER: DID YOU TAKE ANY COURSES IN <br />09:45:13 <br />17 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: 1989, <br />0 <br />FINANCE? <br />09:15:13 <br />18 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: DID YOU ATTEND COLLEGE? <br />09:45:13 <br />16 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:15:13 <br />19 <br />A <br />YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />19 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: <br />DON'T RECALL, <br />09:45:13 <br />20 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />09:45:13 <br />20 <br />Q <br />BY MR. <br />RUBINER: DID YOU ATTEND ANY OTHER, <br />09:45:13 <br />21 <br />Q <br />BY MR, RUBINER: WHICH COLLEGE DID YOU ATTEND? <br />21 <br />OTHER THAN ATTENDING <br />THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT <br />09:45:13 <br />22 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />22 <br />ALBANY, DID YOU <br />ATTEND ANY OTHER COLLEGES OR <br />09:45:13 <br />23 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK. <br />23 <br />UNIVERSITIES? <br />09:45:13 <br />24 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: WHERE IS THAT LOCATED? <br />09:45:13 <br />24 <br />A <br />N0, <br />09:45:13 <br />25 <br />MR. <br />HISNO: COUNSEL, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT RELEVANT <br />09:45:13 <br />25 <br />Q <br />OTHER THAN ATTENDING THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF <br />33 <br />35 <br />: 45 <br />:15 <br />:45 <br />:45 <br />:45 <br />PAGE 34 <br />- INFORMATION "HIS LINE OF QUESTIONING IS GOING TO REVEAL. <br />:13 2 MR, RUBINER: HIS BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS - MAY <br />3 REASONABLY BE CALCULATED TO LEAD TO THE DISCOVERY OF <br />4 ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE. IT'S IN FORM INTERROGATORIES, IT'S <br />5 IN A VARIETY OF THINGS AND IT'S SELF-EVIDENT HOW IT'S <br />6 REASONABLY CALCULATED TO LEAD TO THE DISCOVERY OF <br />7 ADMISSIBLE EVIDENCE. <br />:13 8 MR. BISNO: COUNSEL, I'M YET TO HEAR FROM YOU ONE <br />9 WORD AS TO WHY WHERE MR. OGULNICK WENT OR DIDN'T GO TO <br />10 COLLEGE IS REASONABLY LIKELY TO LEAD TO RELEVANT <br />11 INFORMATION IN THIS CASE. <br />:13 12 MR. RUBINER: HIS EDUCATION BACKGROUND, WHAT HE MAY <br />13 HAVE REPRESENTED TO MY CLIENT ABOUT IT, WHAT HE MAY HAVE <br />14 REPRESENTED TO OTHERS ABOUT IT IS RELEVANT. <br />:13 15 MR. BISNO: YOU MAY ANSWER. <br />:13 16 THE WITNESS: IT'S LOCATED IN NEW YORE. <br />:13 17 Q BY MR. RUBINER: IN NEW YORK STATE? <br />:13 18 A YES. <br />:13 19 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />:13 20 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT CITY IN NEt YORK STATE? <br />:13 21 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />:13 22 THE WITNESS: ALBANY. <br />:13 23 Q BY MR. RUBINER: ALBANY. <br />:13 24 IS THAT THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK AT <br />25 ALBANY? <br />- PAGE 36 <br />1 NEW YORK, DID YOU ATTEND ANY -- STRIKE THAT. <br />:45:13 2 SUBSEQUENT TO ATTENDING THE STATE UNIVERSITY OF <br />3 NEW YORK, DID YOU ATTEND ANY TECHNICAL SCHOOLS? <br />:45:13 4 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION, RELEVANCE. VAGUE AS TO <br />5 TIME, <br />:45:13 6 THE WITNESS: NO. <br />:45:13 7 Q BY MR. RUBINER: DO YOU HAVE ANY PROFESSIONAL <br />8 LICENSES? <br />:45:13 9 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />:45:13 10 THE WITNESS: NO. <br />:45:13 11 Q BY MR. RUBINER: HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN ANY <br />12 COURSES IN REAL ESTATE? <br />:45:13 13 MR, BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />:45:13 14 THE WITNESS: YES. <br />:45:13 15 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHEN DID YOU TAKE COURSES IN <br />16 REAL ESTATE? <br />:45:13 0 A I DON'T RECALL. <br />:45:13 1B Q WAS IT AFTER YOU ATTENDED THE STATE UNIVERSITY <br />19 OF NEW YORK AT ALBANY? <br />:45:13 20 A LIKELY. <br />:45:13 21 Q WAS IT IN CALIFORNIA? <br />:45:13 22 A YES. <br />:45:13 23 Q DO YOU KNOW WHO - DO YOU KNOW WHERE IN <br />:45:13 24 CALIFORNIA YOU TOOK THE COURSE? <br />:45:13 25 MR, BISNO: OBJECTION, RELEVANCE. <br />Dalesandro vs. Ogulnick <br />Deposition of Ryan Andrew Ogulnick, Vol. 1 <br />August 13, 2012 <br />