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R. Leonard, C.S.R., Inc. <br />Certified Shorthand Reporters <br />818.995.2449 <br />SHEET 11 PAGE 41 PAGE 43 <br />1 OTHER DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD AND ACQUIRE NEW 09:45:13 1 Q BY MR. REFINER: VENICE, CALIFORNIA? <br />2 SITES FOR APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. 09:45:13 2 A YES, <br />1:45:13 3 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WAS THIS APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT 09:45:13 3 Q DID YOU WORK FOR PC INVESTMENTS BETWEEN 1996 <br />4 IN LOU ANGELES COUNTY? 4 AND 1998? <br />1:45:13 5 A YES. 09:45:13 5 ME. BISND: OBJECTION• RELEVANCE. <br />1:45:13 6 Q YOU ALSO STATED THAT YOU DID PROPERTY 09:45:13 6 THE WITNESS: ROUGHLY, THAT'S ACCURATE. <br />7 DEVELOPMENT. WERE YOUR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR 09:45:13 7 Q BY MR. RUBINER: IS THERE A DIFFERENT TIME <br />8 PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT THE SAME BETWEEN 1994 AND 1996? 8 FRAME THAT YOU WORKED FOR THEM? <br />:45:13 9 MR. DISKO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE, 09:45:13 9 A I'M JUST NOT SURE. IT'S WITHIN THAT TIME. IT <br />:15:13 10 THE WITNESS: I DON'T RECALL. 10 COULD BE SIX MONTHS LONGER, SIX MONTHS EARLIER, BUT <br />:45:13 11 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT WERE YOUR DUTIES AND 11 THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT RIGHT. <br />12 RESPONSIBILITIES CONCERNING PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WHILE 09:45:13 12 Q WHAT WAS YOUR POSITION WITH PC INVESTMENTS? <br />13 YOU WERE WORKING FOR THE KAPLAN FAMILY? 09:45:13 13 A SIMILAR TO THE KAPLAN FAMILY EXCEPT WE BEGAN TO <br />:45:13 14 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 14 ACQUIRE MULTI, EXISTING MULTI -FAMILY HOUSING. <br />:45:13 15 THE WITNESS: LOCATE SITES, UNDERWRITE SITES, MAKE 09:45:13 15 Q WHO WAS YOUR SUPERVISOR AT PC INVESTMENTS? <br />16 A DETERMINATION OR RECOMMENDATION IF THE SITE WAS 09:45:13 16 MR, BISND: OBJECTION• RELEVANCE. OBJECTION. <br />17 VIABLE, FEASIBLE. 17 VAGUE AS TO TIME. <br />:45:13 18 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WERE YOU PROVIDED ANY TRAINING 09:45:13 18 THE WITNESS: PAUL CHAN. <br />19 IN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT WHILE YOU WORKED AT THE KAPLAN 09:45:13 19 Q BY MR. RUBINER: PAUL CHAN; IS THAT RIGHT? <br />20 FAMILY? 09:45:13 20 A CORRECT. <br />:45:13 21 1•fR. BISNO: OBJECTION. VAGUE AS TO TIME• 09:45:13 21 Q C-H-A-N? <br />22 OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 09:45:13 22 A CORRECT. <br />:45:13 23 THE WITNESS: I DON'T RECALL. 09:45:13 23 Q WAS MR. CHAN YOUR SUPERVISOR THE ENTIRE TIME? <br />:45:13 24 Q BY MR, RUBINER: DID YOU RECEIVE ANY TRAINING 09:45:13 24 A CORRECT. <br />25 CONCERNING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT WHILE YOU WORKED FOR THE 09:45:13 25 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE, <br />41 43 <br />PAGE 42 <br />:45:13 <br />45:13 <br />45:13 <br />:15 :13 <br />:95:13 <br />45:13 <br />45:13 <br />:15 13 <br />5 <br />1 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />KAPLAN FAMILY? <br />MR. BISND: OBJECTION. VAGUE AS TO TIME• <br />OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />THE WITNESS: I WOULD SAY THAT THE KAPLAN BROTHERS <br />WERE VERY EXPERIENCED AND I'M SURE I LEARNED MANY THINGS <br />WORKING FOR THEM. <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH A PERSON <br />NAMED LEWIS KAPLAN? <br />A YES. <br />0 WAS LEWIS KAPLAN PART OF THE KAPLAN FAMILY? <br />A NO. TWO DIFFERENT FAMILIES. DID NOT KNOW EACH <br />OTHER. NO AFFILIATION'. <br />Q WHY DID YOU STOP WORKING FOR THE KAPLAN FAMILY <br />IN IMF <br />MR. EISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />THE WITNESS: MOVED ON TO WORK FOR A NEW COMPANY. <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT NEW COMPANY DID YOU WORK <br />FOR? <br />PAGE 44 <br />:15:13 1 <br />45:13 <br />45:13 5 <br />45:13 6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />45:13 9 <br />10 <br />45:13 11 <br />12 <br />45:13 13 <br />45:13 14 <br />A PC INVESTMENTS. 09:45:13 <br />Q PC INVESTMENTS; IS THAT CORRECT? <br />A CORRECT. 09:45:13 <br />Q WHERE IS PC INVESTMENTS LOCATED? <br />MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. <br />THE WITNESS: '96 THROUGH 198 THEY WERE LOCATED IN 09:45:13 <br />VENICE <br />15 <br />17 <br />16 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />25 <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: DO YOU RECALL WHAT MR. CHAN'S <br />POSITION WITH PC'_NVESTMENT WAS? <br />MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. OBJECTION. <br />VAGUE AS TO TIME. <br />THE WITNESS: I BELIEVE HE WAS THE SOLE OWNER. <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: NOW, YOU SAID THAT IN ADDITION <br />TO THE -- WELL, WERE YOUR JOB DUTIES CONCERNING -- <br />STRIKE THAT. <br />DID YOU, WERE YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR PROPERTY <br />MANAGEMENT AT PC INVESTMENTS? <br />MR. BISND: OBJECTION, RELEVANCE, OBJECTION• <br />VAGUE AS TO TIME, <br />THE WITNESS: CORRECT, <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: WERE YOUR DUTIES AND <br />RESPONSIBILITIES AS IT RELATES TO PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AT <br />PC INVESTMENTS THE SAME AS IT WAS AT THE KAPLAN FAMILY? <br />MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE, OBJECTION. <br />VAGUE AS TO TIME. <br />THE WITNESS: THERE'S LIKELY DIFFERENCES, NUANCES, <br />DIFFERENT THINGS I WOULD DO, <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT WERE THE DIFFERENCES IN <br />WHAT YOU DID CONCERNING PROPERTY MANAGEMENT AT PC <br />INVESTMENTS FROM THE KAPLAN FAMILY? <br />MR, BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. OBJECTION. <br />VAGUE AS TO TIME. <br />Dalesandro vs. Ogulnick <br />Deposition of Ryan Andrew Ogulnick, Vol. 1 <br />August 13, 2012 <br />