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R. Leonard, C.S.R., Inc. Certified Shorthand Reporters 818.995.2449 SHEET 18 PAGE 69 PAGE 71 0 9 : 45:13 1 OTHER THAN YOU AND -- STRIKE THAT, 1 WITH M&M INVESTMENTS, RAVE Y09 HAD ANY OTHER EMPLOYMENT? 09:45:13 2 WERE YOU THE ONLY PERSON SUED? 09:45:13 2 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. DEJECTION• 09:45:13 3 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 3 VAGUE AS TO TIME. 09:45:13 4 THE WITNESS: I DON'T RECALL. 09:15:13 4 THE WITNESS: NO. 09:45:13 5 Q BY MR. ROSINED: DO YOU STILL HAVE A 09:45:13 5 Q BY MR. RUBINER: DID YOU BEGIN WORKING BY 6 RELATIONSHIP TODAY WITH MR. WEINGARTEN? 6 YOURSELF IN 2005 OR 20067 09:45:13 7 MR, BISND: OBJECTION• RELEVANCE. 09:45:13 7 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 09:45:13 8 THE WITNESS: 10. 09:45:13 8 THE WITNESS: MYSELF IN THE SENSE THAT I AM A SOLE 09:45:13 9 Q BY MR. RUBINER: OTHER THAN MR. WEINGARTEN, DID 9 PROPRIETOR, NO. IN THE SENSE THAT I WAS NOT EMPLOYED BY 10 ANYONE ELSE -- STRIKE THAT. 10 A COMPANY, YES. VARIOUS ENTITIES WERE FORMED TO PURSUE 09:45:13 11 NOW, YOU SAID MR. KAPLAN WAS INVOLVED IN THE 11 REAL ESTATE VENTURES. 12 SEAFOOD BUSINESS; IS THAT RIGHT? 00:45:13 12 Q BY MR. RUBINER: SO FROM 20D5 OR 2006 TILL NOW, 09:45:13 13 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 13 HAVE YOU WORKED IN ANY BUSINESS OTHER THAN REAL ESTATE? 09:45:13 14 THE WITNESS: CORRECT. 09:45:13 14 MR. BISND: OBJECTION• RELEVANCE. OBJECTTDN. 09:45:13 15 Q BY MR. RUBINER: OKAY. 15 PRIVACY. 09:45:13 16 AND WAS IT LOBSTER THAT HE WAS INVOLVED WITH? 09:15:13 16 THE WITNESS: NO. 09:45:13 11 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 09:45:13 17 Q BY MR. RUBINER: NOW, EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT A 09:15:13 18 THE WITNESS: I THINK HE WAS INVOLVED IN A LOT OF 18 CO;•1PAKY, I THINK, VINEYARDS DEVELOPME17 CORPORATION; IS 19 DIFFERENT SEAFOODS AND PRODUCE. 19 'HAT RIGHT? 09:15:13 20 Q BY MR. RUBINER: AND OTHER THAN MR. WEINGARTEN, 09:45:13 20 A UH-HUH. 21 DID YOU BRING OTHER INVESTORS IN TO INVEST IN 09:45:13 21 Q THAT'S A YES? 22 MR. KAPLAN'S BUSINESS? 09:15:13 22 A YES. 09:45:13 23 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 09:45:13 23 Q AND YOU, I BELIEVE YOU SAID -- WHAT'S YOUR 09:45:13 24 THE WITNESS: NOT ME PERSONALLY. 24 POSITION WITH VINEYARDS DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION? 09:45:13 25 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT WAS YOUR 09:45:13 25 A CEO. 69 PAGE 70 PAGE 72 1 INVOLVEMENT -- STRIKE THAT. 09:45:13 I Q HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN THE CEO OF VINEYARDS 09:15:13 2 DO YOU REMEMBER THE COMPANY NAME THAT 2 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION? 3 MR. KAPLAN WORKED WITH? 09:45:13 3 A CORRECT. D9:45:13 4 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 09:15:13 4 Q IS THERE A COMPANY CALLED VINEYARDS DEVELOPMENT 01:45:13 5 THE WITNESS: UNITED FOODS. 5 INCORPORATED? 09:45:13 6 Q BY MR. RUBINER: DID YOU INVEST IN UNITED 09:45:13 6 A THEY'RE ONE IN THE SAME. 7 FOODS? 09:15:13 7 Q SO YOU'RE THE CEO OF THAT COMPANY? 09:45:13 8 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE, OBJECTION• 09:45:13 8 A CORRECT. 9 PRIVACY. 09:45:13 9 Q AND MISS FLANNP.GAN OR MISS DGULNICK, DEPENDING 09:45:13 10 INSOFAR AS TEAT REVEALS PERSONAL INFORMATION 10 ON TIME, IS THE, IS OR WAS THE CFO OF THE COMPANY; IS 11 ABOUT YOURSELF AS OPPOSED TO AN SPE, I AM DIRECTING YOU 11 THAT RIGHT? 12 NOT TO ANSWER. 09:45:13 12 MR. BISND: OBJECTION• ASKED AND ANSWERED. 09:45:13 13 THE WITNESS: WE INVESTED IN UNITED FOODS FOR THE 09:45:13 13 THE WITNESS: DO I RESPOND AFTER YOU SAID THAT? 14 LAST INVESTMENT WHICH WAS THE INVESTMENT THAT DID NOT 09:45:13 14 MR. BISNO: YES. YES, YOU MAY RESPOND. 15 C014E BACK, THE INVESTMENT WHICH WE SUED ON AND RECEIVED 09:45:13 15 THE WITNESS: CORRECT, 16 JUDGMENT AGAINST MR. KAPLAN AND UNITED FOODS, 09:15:13 16 Q BY MR. RUBINER: AND ARE THERE ANY EMPLOYEES 09:45:13 17 Q BY MR. RUBINER: WHEN YOU SAY "WE," WHO IS THE 17 OTHER -- STRIKE THAT. 18 WE YOU WERE -- WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "WE"? 09:45:13 18 DOES VINEYARDS DEVELOPMENT INCORPORATED HAVE 09:45:13 19 MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RELEVANCE. 19 ANY EMPLOYEES? 09:45:13 20 THE WITNESS: LEE BENCHAY AND MYSELF SUED LEWIS 09:45:13 20 MR. BISND: OBJECTION. ASKED AND ANSWERED. i 21 KAPLAN. 09:45:13 21 THE WITNESS: NO. 09:45:13 22 Q BY MR. RUBINER: FOLLOWING -- IN 2005 YOU SAID 09:45:13 22 Q BY MR. RUBINER: OTHER THAN VINEYARDS 23 YOU -- OR 'SIX YOU STOPPED WORKING WITH M&M INVESTMENTS• 23 DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND VINEYARDS DEVELOPMENT 24 HAVE YOU EVER BEEN EMPLOYED BY ANY OTHER -- STRIKE THAT. 24 INCORPORATED, ARE YOU CURRENTLY THE CEO OF ANY OTHER 09:15:13 25 SINCE 2005 OR 2006 WHEN YOU STOPPED WORKING 25 COMPANIES? 10 12 Dalesandro vs. Ogulnick Deposition of Ryan Andrew Ogulnick, Vol. 1 August 13, 2012