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R. Leonard, C.S.R., Inc. <br />Certified Shorthand Reporters <br />818.995.2449 <br />SHEET <br />19 PAGE 73 <br />PAGE <br />75 <br />09:45:13 <br />1 <br />A <br />N0, <br />09:45:13 <br />1 <br />)WHEREUPON, THE ABOVE -MENTIONED DOCUMENT WAS <br />09:45:13 <br />2 <br />Q <br />ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE A COMPANY CALLED <br />2 <br />MARKED FOR IDENTIFICATION BY THE SHORTHAND REPORTER AND <br />3 <br />VD — VDB? <br />3 <br />ATTACHED HERETO). <br />09:45:13 <br />4 <br />A <br />YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />4 <br />Q BY MR. RUBINER: DO YOU GAVE EXHIBIT 4 IN FRONT <br />09:45:13 <br />5 <br />Q <br />AND WHAT -- DO YOU HAVE A POSITION WITH VDB? <br />5 <br />OF YOU, SIR? <br />09:45:13 <br />6 <br />MR. BISNO: OBJECTION. RIGHT TO PRIVACY. <br />09:45:13 <br />6 <br />A I DO. <br />09:41:13 <br />7 <br />YOU MAY ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I WILL MOST <br />09:45:13 <br />7 <br />Q CAN YOU "AKE A MOMENT AND REVIEW EXHIBIT 4. <br />8 <br />LIKELY <br />OBJECT TO THE NEXT ONE, <br />8 <br />LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'VE FINISHED. <br />09:15:13 <br />9 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />9 <br />A OKAY. <br />09:45:13 <br />10 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: WHAT'S YOUR POSITION? <br />09:45:13 <br />10 <br />Q HAVE YOU EVER SEEN EXHIBIT 4 BEFORE? <br />09:45:13 <br />11 <br />A <br />MANAGER. <br />09:45:13 <br />11 <br />A NO. <br />01:45:13 <br />12 <br />Q <br />MANAGER? <br />09:45:13 <br />12 <br />Q EXHIBIT 4 IS TITLED 'ORGANIZATIONAL CHART.' <br />09:15:13 <br />13 <br />A <br />UH-HUH, <br />09:45:13 <br />13 <br />DO YOU SEE THAT? <br />09:15:13 <br />14 <br />Q <br />AND WHAT BUSINESS IS VDB IN? <br />09:45:13 <br />14 <br />A YES. <br />09:15:13 <br />15 <br />A <br />ENTITLING AN ORANGE COUNTY SITE AND THE <br />09:45:13 <br />15 <br />Q OKAY. <br />16 <br />SUBSEQUENT <br />DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE FOR 271 APARTMENT <br />09:45:13 <br />16 <br />AND IT APPEARS TO BE AN ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AS <br />17 <br />UNITS. <br />17 <br />IT RELATES TO VDC AT THE MET. IS EXHIBIT 4 AN ACCURATE <br />D9:45:13 <br />18 <br />Q <br />AND WAS THE ORANGE COUNTY SITE ORIGINALLY <br />18 <br />CHART OF THE OWNERSHIP OF VDC AT THE MET, AS YOU <br />19 <br />CALLED <br />GENEV.A COMMONS? <br />19 <br />UNDERSTAND IT? <br />09:45:13 <br />20 <br />A <br />CORRECT. <br />09:45:13 <br />20 <br />MR. BISNO: OBJECTION, VAGUE AS TO TIME. <br />09:15:13 <br />21 <br />Q <br />AND IS IT, THE ORANGE COUNTY SITE NOW CALLED <br />09:45:13 <br />21 <br />Q BY MR, RUBINER: AS OF RIGHT NOW. <br />22 <br />VDC AT <br />THE MET? <br />09:45:13 <br />22 <br />A YES, <br />09:45:13 <br />23 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: OBJECTION, VAGUE AND AMBIGUOUS. <br />01:45:13 <br />23 <br />Q 30 VDC, IF I REFER TO — WELL, IF I REFER TO <br />24 <br />ANSWER IF YOU CAN. <br />24 <br />VDC AT THE MET LLC AS VDC AT THE MET, WILL YOU KNOW WHAT <br />09:45:13 <br />25 <br />THE <br />WITNESS: I THINK TT HAS SEVERAL NAMES. <br />25 <br />I'M TALKING ABOUT? <br />731 <br />15 <br />PAGE 74 <br />PAGE 76 <br />09:45:13 <br />1 <br />Q <br />BY MR. RUBINER: ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH A <br />09:45:13 <br />1 <br />A YES, <br />2 <br />COMPANY <br />CALLED VDC AT THE MET? <br />09:45:13 <br />2 <br />Q SO ONE OF THE MEMBERS ON THIS CHART IS VDB. <br />09:45:13 <br />3 <br />A <br />YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />3 <br />DO YOU SEE THAT? <br />09:15:13 <br />4 <br />Q <br />DO YOU HAVE A POSITION WITH VDC AT THE MET? <br />09:45:13 <br />4 <br />A YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />5 <br />A <br />YES, <br />09:45:13 <br />5 <br />Q DOES VDB HAVE -- IS IT AN LLC; DO YOU KNOW? <br />09:15:13 <br />6 <br />Q <br />WHAT'S YOUR POSITION? <br />09:45:13 <br />6 <br />A YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />7 <br />A <br />MANAGER. <br />09:45:13 <br />7 <br />Q 50 IT SHOULD BE VDB LLC IS ITS FULL NAME; IS <br />09:45:13 <br />8 <br />Q <br />ARE THERE ANY OTHER MANAGERS AT VDC AT THE MET? <br />8 <br />THAT RIGHT? <br />04:45:13 <br />9 <br />A <br />YES, <br />09:45:13 <br />9 <br />A YEAH, I THINK SO. <br />09:45:13 <br />10 <br />Q <br />WHO ARE THEY? <br />09:45:13 <br />10 <br />Q AND YOU'RE A MEMBER OF VDB LLC; IS THAT RIGHT? <br />09:15:13 <br />11 <br />A <br />A GROUP CALLED ILUS, <br />09:45:13 <br />11 <br />A YES. <br />09:45:13 <br />12 <br />Q <br />ANYONE ELSE? <br />09:45:13 <br />12 <br />Q OKAY. <br />09:45:13 <br />13 <br />A <br />NO. <br />09:45:13 <br />13 <br />ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF VDB LLC? <br />09:45:13 <br />14 <br />MR, <br />RUBINER: I'M GOING TO ASK THE COURT REPORTER <br />09:45:13 <br />14 <br />A NO, <br />15 <br />TO MARK <br />AS EXHIBIT -- CAN WE GO OFF THE RECORD JUST ONE <br />09:45:13 <br />15 <br />Q AND ARE YOU A MEMBER, ARE YOU, RYAN OGULNICK, A <br />16 <br />SECOND? <br />16 <br />MEMBER OF VDB LLC OR IS THERE AN ENTITY THAT HAS THE <br />09:45:13 <br />11 <br />THE <br />VIDEOGRAPHER: WE'RE OFF THE RECORD 12:23 P.M. <br />17 <br />MEMBERSHIP IN VDB LLC? <br />09:45:13 <br />1B <br />(RECESS HELD). <br />09:45:13 <br />18 <br />MR, BISNO: I'M GOING TO OBJECT ON THE GROUNDS OF <br />09:45:13 <br />19 <br />THE <br />VIDEOGRAPHER: WE'RE ON THE RECORD 12:24 P.M. <br />19 <br />PRIVACY BUT NOT IF YOU ARE A MEMBER THROUGH AN ENTITY, <br />09:45:13 <br />20 <br />MR. <br />RUBINER: I'D LIKE TO MARK AS EXHIBIT 4 A <br />20 <br />BUT IF YOU ARE A MEMBER PERSONALLY I'M GOING TO OBJECT <br />21 <br />ONE -PAGE <br />DOCUMENT THAT ACTUALLY HAS THE TITLE EXHIBIT A, <br />21 <br />ON THE GROUNDS OF PRIVACY AND INSTRUCT YOU NOT TO <br />22 <br />ORGANIZATIONAL <br />CHART, AND ASK THE COURT REPORTER TO HAND <br />09:45:13 <br />22 <br />ANSWER. <br />23 <br />THAT TO <br />THE WITNESS. <br />09:15:13 <br />23 <br />THE WITNESS: I HONESTLY DON'T -- <br />09:45:13 <br />24 <br />MR. <br />BISNO: THANK YOU. <br />09:45:13 <br />24 <br />MR, RUBINER: I THINK THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS TO <br />09:45:13 <br />25 <br />111 <br />25 <br />HOW IS HE A MEMBER OF IT. <br />19 <br />,a <br />Dalesandro vs. Ogulmck <br />Deposition of Ryan Andrew Ogulnick, Vol. 1 <br />August 13, 2012 <br />