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Councilmember Phan thanked the City Attorney for clarifying, stated that these questions were not due to a lack of sympathy and that she personally desires iCE out of California, Orange County, and Santa Ana, and acknowledged the difficult reality and the lack of city authority to remove ICE, Border Patrol, or the National Guard. She emphasized the city's role is to support legislators fighting for removal and to share information and resources with the community, stressed the importance of not misinforming the public about the city's limited authority, and urged solidarity rather than internal blame. She expressed hope for continued information sharing, mutual care, and support, commended the executive team, Chief, City Attorneys, and Councilmembers for ensuring protest rights, and reminded everyone to stand together against the federal government harming the community. She reflected on the emotional night and expressed her belief in the posted motto "E Pluribus Unum." Councilmember Lopez acknowledged the anger and deep sadness felt by many in the community, thanked everyone involved in community efforts, and expressed understanding of what families are experiencing, citing personal examples of her parents'fear and the anxiety reported by constituents. She urged residents to prioritize self-care and mutual safety, and highlighted the grim reality of family separations, parental detentions, and unidentified federal agents in tactical gear detaining individuals without due process. She noted the detention of children, arrest of community leaders, brutalization of journalists, targeting of legal observers, and repeated traumatization of everyday people, including those reliving past traumas. Councilmember Lopez reiterated the demand for ICE to leave neighborhoods and emphasized the need to speak up and push back against the administration, while also noting that business owners do not want the National Guard due to negative impacts on downtown Santa Ana's foot traffic. She asked regarding the plan to ensure peaceful protests without brutalization and explained she was at the June 9th protest where federal agents shot various objects into the crowd, and that Trustee Magdaleno, who was with her, was hit twice. Councilmember Lopez mentioned she heard the Chief speak about federal agents calling for support. Police Chief Rodriguez confirmed federal agents had contacted Santa Ana Police for support, including to get vehicles in to extract federal staff from their building. In response to Councilmember Lopez, Police Chief Rodriguez noted that such assistance did not conflict with the sanctuary ordinance because the request was for assistance for another law enforcement agency, not for the arrest or detainment of anyone based on immigration status. City Attorney Carvalho stated there were two separate issues: the Sanctuary City ordinance and the California Values Act protect individuals from federal agencies in detaining or investigating immigrants. She clarified the police department provides "safety assistance" to anyone, regardless of who calls, and that the call from federal agents was for assistance for people feeling unsafe in the Federal building, not for arrests, detentions, or deportation hearings related to immigrants. City Attorney Carvalho then reminded the council that while she was happy to answer questions, she would be mindful of the Brown Act, which allows for clarifying questions but not a debate since the item was not agendized. in response to an inquiry by MayorAmezcua, City Attorney Carvalho confirmed that brief questions were permissible, but not a "back CITY COUNCIL 23 JUNE 17, 2025