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I your input. Jason, show them the card again.
<br />1 smaller amount of parking, but you can still have parking
<br />2 JASON GABRIEL: Here are the cards. !
<br />2 in the vast majority of cases on both sides of the street.
<br />3 CITY MANAGER CAVAZOS; Tell us what you want. ]want
<br />3 so there are options there for us.
<br />4 streetcar one. I want streetcar two. I don't want any
<br />4 No. 2, it will operate westbound on Civic
<br />5 streetcars. Whatever it is, just tell us. We want your
<br />5 Center and eastbound on Fifth Street, but there are some
<br />6 input. We need your input. And you don't have to do it
<br />6 challenges. Longer, more circuitous route. The longer
<br />j 7 today. You can think about, have a meeting, talk to your
<br />7 route means greater costs, about seven percent higher
<br />8 friends, take a vote, and then send it in by email, fax,
<br />8 costs, and it does have a little bit of a more significant
<br />9 etcetera, at cetera.
<br />9 rider impact for streetcars.
<br />10 And here are the challenges and the benefits for
<br />10 And then there's the bus option. Of course, your
<br />11 streetcar alternative one. One benefit, it serves the
<br />11 capital costs are going to be lower up front because buses
<br />12 greatest number of transit dependent households. There's a
<br />i 12 are cheaper than the light rail vehicles. It doesn't
<br />13 lot of people that depend on transit. Highest daily
<br />13 require any additional right -of -ways. There's really no
<br />14 ridership. One experience I have is that whatever your
<br />15 ridership projections are, they're usually overachieved.
<br />J 14 adverse impact on the environment. But the challenges are,
<br />15 it's the lowest daily ridership, so the impact on ridership
<br />16 if they say they're going to do this, it's going to be much
<br />16 is not positive. Buses are smaller, less capacity.
<br />17 greater. People are always worried about ridership. I
<br />17 They're less efficient. The boarding is not as convenient
<br />18 guarantee you, its going to be full. The people are going
<br />18 and it provides very, very little economic development.
<br />19 to use the Hain, the light rail. Operations and
<br />19 In general, economic development should not be a
<br />20 maintenance costs are one of the things that we focused on
<br />20 driving force, but if you live along the light rail or have
<br />21 to keep those costs low, and of course what is the best
<br />21 a business there, the economic impact is usually five to
<br />22 land use.
<br />22 one. So for every dollar invested in infrastructure, you
<br />23 Some of the challenges are, it does impact some
<br />23 get about a $5.00 return. That's a general role of thumb.
<br />24 parking. The good news is, the streetcar, because it's in
<br />24 Some places are lower. Some places are higher. But that's
<br />25 the traffic lane, you could still have parking. Maybe a
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<br />I So why the streetcar? They're very reliable. I
<br />1 1 director. I don't think half of them knew it, bill when you
<br />2 remember when I lived off the streetcar in Phoenix, I told
<br />! 2 look at this, there's two cities in America that are among
<br />3 someone out of my bedroom window, I actually could see the
<br />3 the top 15 in density. They're both in Orange County and
<br />4 station and I would send a text and they would say that a
<br />4 they're the only ones that don't have a streetcar or light
<br />5 streetcar would be there in five minutes. I'd look in the
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<br />5 rail. And Santa Ana's No. 4. Almost 12,000 people per
<br />6 mirror, go like this, walk down my stairs, go down the
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<br />6 square mile. This is a very dense city. Poster child for
<br />7 stairs and across the street, and the train's waiting for
<br />7 a streetcar. We're in between Boston and Chicago. Very,
<br />8 me. Isn't drat beautiful?
<br />8 very interesting. So there it is, density.
<br />9 Who takes the bus here? Nobody? You do. I used
<br />9 How do the costs compare? Well, when you look at
<br />10 to wait at the bus. It was like an eternity. When's it
<br />10 a house or look at something over the long tern, you have
<br />I l coming? When will it get here? You never know. But the
<br />11 to take all the costs into consideration. What you £tad
<br />12 trains, they run on time acrd it's awesome. Very friendly
<br />12 out, for what I believe is a very, very high level of
<br />13 environmentally obviously. It does foster walkability,
<br />13 service, the cost for the streetcar is right in line with
<br />14 more pedestrian.
<br />14 the cost for the bus. So the total cost over 25 years
<br />15 Again I mentioned the economic development. And
<br />15 capital, O & M, for the bus is 363. You can see the
<br />16 it's very compatible with the scale and the character of
<br />j 16 streetcar one is 361 and the streetcar two is a little bit
<br />17 the city. Especially Santa Ana. Santa Ana used to have a
<br />18 streetcar. I remember working at the library, and it had a
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<br />1 17 higher. And that's our study and analysis, and so we
<br />18 believe that when you look at the costs, the streetcar
<br />19 nice streetcar, a red streetcar. It used to go down Fourth
<br />19 actually can come in either the same as the bus or in some
<br />20 Street.
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<br />20 cases even lower.
<br />21 This is something that's really, really
<br />21 Next slide. One of the things that we did with
<br />22 surprising. Who's seen this chart? Density. Density is
<br />22 Orange County Transit Authority is we said, we're partners.
<br />23 like the driving force behind mass transportation. The
<br />23 Partners meaning that you have a partnership of
<br />24 higher density, the higher need for mass transportation. I
<br />24 participation and so we agreed that 10 percent of the net
<br />25 showed this to the Orange County Transit Authority board
<br />25 cost that Santa Ana world participate in is estimated at
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